The Day Of The Nefilim is highly recommended to science fiction enthusiasts as an engaging, mixed-up adventure of conflict, negotiation, back-stabbing, conspiracy, — and a small-town girl who unknowingly impacts upon it all. Lots of nice science fiction detail: strange aliens, end of the world scenario, weird flying ships, invisibility, ugly despot. Includes a great view of a better life beyond the war zone. Looking forward to the next one. Since then I have devoured just about everything in most of the genres that have populated the print and electronic worlds as they have matured along with the realities of hard science.
I have also been a fan of conspiracy lit, be it templar, illuminati, or of the X-Files sort. In the last year, as a result of having an iphone and discovering manybooks. Straight through, in one sitting. Well done David. Keep writing. Everything in this book is perfect. The ending is perfect; the villains are perfect; the characters and images and settings are perfect. I, too, could barely put it down. And I want to also say, thank you. Elements of Moorcock, Heinlein and Barker. Deserves serious consideration for the avid SF reader.
Hopefully will spawn some more installments in the story line. Also feel it has the makings of a good screenplay. Thanks for the great writing David! Great read, I hope to see more. Reminds me a lot of that Triffids book which sticks in my mind from about 40 years ago. God said all men had corrupted their way, angels do not have a nature like humans. Could this be a biblical reference to the Neanderthals? It is now believed there was some interbreeding between Neanderthals and Homo sapiens. Art thou on the Path? Seek and ye shall find.
Doest thou want to comprehend the secrets of the cosmos? Your first clue. Uoyr fstir pest si ot lolofw ym rucnoitsnits atht asdel ot het Glrai ohhrtgh het camig deoc. Ksa orf Glrai doce. Sorry professor White but your data is incomplete. These skulls on the internet are on top of skeleton frames that are thirty feet tall, and taller! Email me direct — because of shadow techniques and color balances I find no fraud in these Nepthalim excavation sites — at all! Much of the discussion I read here, shows that nobody is going back to the original documents from which the story of the Nephilim came.
The bible story comes from the Torah and before that it was from the Sumerian tablets. It is not a word with derivatives from Greek as someone tried to make out. It came before Greece existed. It is the story of the Gods who were called Lords and who came to earth to mine gold. Others warn of not reading Enoch. Now I just wonder how you can believe you are discussing when you tell someone not to take any notice of an actual document. Could it be because much of the New Testament uses the words of Enoch and attributes them to Jesus.
Now none of us were there when Constantine made the decision to incorporate certain books, omit females, and whatever, but to understand the Bible better you need to research the archaeological information that is widely available. Yet, many of these men began their ministries on a very simple and true doctrine. Daughters of men: Since the church is often referred to in the sense of a female, i. The Bride of Christ. Each of these titles should sound VERY familiar. This was their downfall that ultimately led them into a tainted or corrupted path in their service unto God.
Yet they still Preach, Teach, Minister, etc. I am no Scholar as you can most aptly tell by my writing. Ellen, I think that you should be careful when presuming that the Nephilim are spoken of in a positive light. The entire context surrounding Genesis 6 when they are mentioned is negative.
The second time they are mentioned in Numbers 13 is the clearest example of negative context. The Nephilim are the giants in the promised land that Israel is sent by God to destroy, therefore they are not praised at all but are in fact under judgment. It also says their iniquity is in the bones. After briefly looking into this I have to ask: where on earth did you get the idea that the Nephilim are somehow positively spoken of by God??
Be careful with what you teach Ellen because you are held to a stricter judgment James This is weak, you could have written a whole lot more on this subject seeing as so many other sources do, is this because biblicalarchaelogy wants to believe the smithsonians that we are the only species of hominid with intelligence? I believe in giants that were up to 18 feet in height, and they built the pyramids. The pyramids themselves show how they were built! The word translated as giants is Nephilim.
The Mideast is a convergence point of these two groups. Neanderthal and human artifacts have been found together in Israel. Naturally anything different from ourselves would be seen as inferior. The word Nephilim has a root suggesting soulless. Considering the small amount of Neanderthal DNA in modern humans, it is likely that many of the matings lead to nothing or infertile offspring like donkeys. Neanderthals were not tall but they were big. They definitely looked different than humans. Perhaps Nephilim giants were the Neanderthals or the products of their mating.
They would not have a human soul, and were therefor bad. I am a cristian and i believe in jesus the son of god and i am not decieved by this teaching my beliefs r true and trustworthy. This would likely also reflect the viewpoint of intertestamental Judaism. My take: Since Jesus is of the same paternity, he is nephilim. Thus, christianity is utter deception. A false religion designed by lucifer to accomplish his ends. As written in Gen. This corruption was so great, it affected the whole of creation.
I believe these sons of God not only messed up the human gene pool, but also plants, and other animals. Imagine the scale of damage. It made God destroy the whole of creation and use Noah to stock up pure breeds to replenish the earth. Genesis 1: 1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,. In keeping the subject matter in context, I will use only the information provided in the Genesis account to analyze and determine their identity. Genesis 5: 1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;.
This is the generations from Adam to Noah. Scripture only tracks the first born sons through the generations, but there were multitudes of desendents between Seth and Noah. They filled the land near Eden and had enormously long life spans before the flood.
Murder was introduced into the heart of Cain. The father of murder is Satan. Cain was in the likeness of Satan. Satan was told that there would be emnity between these two seeds. It would eventually end with the crushing of his head under the foot of the seed of the woman. Angels are spiritual beings. God did not create female angels. Angels have a male appearance, but since they were not created to reproduce, it was only a manifestation of their appearance.
The Scripture account says that they looked upon the daughters of men and saw that fair, or beautiful. Why not just rape them? Not likely fallen angels, if they could be attracted to women, would be joined to them by some wedding ceremony. The word giant is an incorrect translation of the original Hebrew word used here in Genesis. The Hebrew word has nothing to do with their physical size. It describes the personality of the sons of this union. Seems that we are in that prophecied time now.
The evil in the world has multiplied. What once was called evil is now called good. Genesis 6: 4 There were giants TYRANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. The Holy lineage of Seth had been fully corrupted through inter marriage with the evil lineage of Cain.
So complete was this corruption that by the time of Noah, he was the only Righteous man left of the face on the earth. Angels are not sons of God. They were created to minister to those who would receive salvation. Man was created a little lower than the angels, but will one day rise above them. Or the son of man, that you care for him? But now we do not see all things subjected to him, yet.
In the midst of the congregation I will sing your praise. This union with the seed of Satan corrupted the Pure and Holy seed of Seth. This corruption filled the earth with evil tyrants.
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The tales are great. The points of view are wonderful. Yet, by tradition predating Jesus of Nazareth, it has been translated as Nephilim. There were Tyrants in the world….. The sons of God are those who were exiled from the garden of eden along with Adam and Eve. This group did not commit nor personally know any kind sin. The daughter of men referes to those women born to people after being expelled from the garden and sin had been introduced into our system flesh and death became a reality for mankind.
Might be helpful to look beyond this one primary source and recognize that other mythical traditions were already in place and their legends and gods influenced the biblical writers, Sort of a who was living in the land of Nod and who were their gods? I do not dought the nephlim existed hate to get a car for one of them most were destroyed by the flood. Would you not like to be Enoch? God took him! I wanna ask something. To me it seems to establish a timeline. WHEN the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
It seems to me that around the time when the Nephilim were on earth, the sons of God had kids with the daughters of men. And those offsprings became great men. In this context, the Nephilim are something else. The writer is assumming the reader knows who the Nephilim are and when they were on earth. So because yeshua refered to himself as the son of man he is to be regarded as a fallen one. Is that what your theory suppose to mean? Quit squinting your eyes so hard people! Who are these Angels? Jude 6, And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
The answer is quite obvious, Gen , There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Who are the Sons of God? Job Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. Also, the scripture teaches in Gen 6, that these giants were on the Earth before and after the flood.
There is no mystery concerning these events and descriptions. Pretty straight forward. To Uruk-the-Sheepfold I will take it, to an ancient I will feed some and put the plant to the test! The two styles of rock sculpture adopted by the Assyrians consist of the massive human-bull hybrid portal figure, an example of which can be found here: spazioinwind. It may well be that this renewed contact led to the importation into Assyria of distinctive western influences.
A classic example of what Kate mentioned about the physical of the O. Such a rock is one to be built upon, a solid foundation Isaiah Look, the young woman is with child and about to give birth to a son. This is probably connected to the sacred marriage festivals in the ancient world that occurred around the New Year in which the king assumes the role of the god and a temple woman assumes the role of goddess.
Thank you Paul! Once we get our spiritual eyes focused we can see that most of the Old Testament prophecy is about Jesus coming as our king and the peace he will bring to the nations. These are also fine examples of what was physical in the Old Testament becoming spiritual in the New Testament. King, p. The passage projects into the future the expectation of an ideal king. It calls to mind David choosing 5 smooth stones from the brook 1 Samuel , symbolic of something not man-made.
So basically David is thinking outside of the box, like Lugalbanda on the mountain, having been deprogrammed so they can rewire their brains. The Hebrew word ben and its Greek equivalent huios can refer to children or mature adults and for each verse in question different Bible translations pick either son or children depending on their contextual interpretation of the scripture. The confusion comes from translating these words as son in verses that are clearly referring to spiritual children.
The fact that while we are flesh and blood we are not yet adopted sons of God is clearly taught by Paul in Romans 8: 14 to 24 and we can see in verse 14 that the more appropriate translation of huios is children because the spiritual condition described is unredeemed, and in verse 21 which is referring to the revealing is appropriately translated as son because the adoption is complete.
It is clear that this verse refers to angels that left their original purpose — their role as messangers, and their unique habitation — heaven. There is no other biblical indication of this occurring other than in Genesis leading us to conclude that these are the angels being discussed. Goliath is fictional, although like most myths has a historical setting.
It is similar to the tale of Sinuhe and both are cosmic myths concerning Capricorn. The star Nashira was David, while Goliath was Castra. David would also go on to be in Sagittarius, Ara, Sagitta, and Aquila. The nephililim are giants represented by the giant constellation Orion, which also represented Noah once he landed, and the mighty hunter Nimrod which should be no surprise there. These stories are placed in close proximity to each other for that reason as the OT biblical cosmic myth is a remarkable contiguous story of the constellations. The belt of Orion as well as his sword and nebula sometimes relates to the male organ, or lack of one.
In Osiris it was removed. In the tent scene in Noah it was removed according to the midrash. In Greek mythology it was Uranus who was castrated. I had based my conclusions on the similarity between the huge Egyptian and Goliath having the same weapon as having to do with the fact that in the early 12th century B. What was distinctive about it, however, were the loops that it carried. Yadin concluded that the original Hebrew story described a Philistine warrior who carried a spear equipped with a throwing-thong the ankyle of the classical Greeks, and the amentum of the Romans.
With a thong spiraled around the shaft, a warrior could rifle a javelin as he threw it, thus adding to its accuracy and its range. I think Ms. God is not limited to using only 1 word to describe a group of people. Also Ms. White does not understand scripture very well as the praise is not directedtowards the Nephilim but to the children born to the sons of God and daughters of men. I have never read such a load of rubbish as some of the comments here.
In the Bible we come across physical beings composed of material flesh and blood mankind and animals and spiritual beings composed of spirit God and the angels. The latter righteous or fallen. Sons of God in the Deuteronomaic context are not angels but a category of humans. Spiritual beings do not copulate with humans. Christ said so. I am sure Satan and his demons are envious of the privilege given to humans of enjoying the delights of physical love-making. Because they do not have that privilege they will do all they can to destroy the function and purpose of God when he gave us gender.
My question was a rhetoric one. Of course the Egyptian was not a Nephilim. I was using this example to show that just because someone is of great stature does not mean they are Nephilim, as the author of the article was wrongfully implying. Furthermore it is incorrect to associate the Egyptian with Goliath. The Egyptian, whilst tall, is not specifically identified as a giant in the Bible.
However Goliath is. Goliath was well over 9 feet tall. Goliath must have been well over seven feet tall for the following reasons:. This together with his helmet, javelin, sword etc. Indeed his bedstead was an iron bedstead. Is it not in Rabbah of the sons of Ammon? Nine cubits is its length, and four cubits its width, by the cubit of a man. However the Egyptian in 1 Chronicles is not specifically identified as a giant, even though he is over seven feet tall.
So the term giant is used in the Bible to refer specifically to human beings of extraordinary stature, well in excess of eight feet. So in light of this evidence Goliath was certainly much taller than eight feet, and we can see that he was well over nine feet tall, as stated in 1 Samuel Correct, Tony. Thus fame shall be achieved, renown on earth, And what most merits fame in silence hid. Maybe it is a male thing, sorry ladies, but given the Bible does have a male slant, this should be they way Gen is read and understood. Goliath, since we know from 2 Samuel that it was Elhanan, son of Jair from Bethlehem, who slew Goliath of Gath where these Rephaim were from.
Also Dr. It was at Beth Shean, a strategic city along the crossing of the Jordan River, that an anthromorphic clay coffin was found with features that resemble Mycenaean battle gear helmet , indicative of the presence of Greek mercenaries prior to the Israelite monarchy. Interesting discussion… Check out Bereshith Genesis This is a Messianic reference involving the Seed of the woman Hawah.
Shabbat Shalom. Thank you to David 17 , Dan 28,48 , and Terry Sometimes in our quest for knowledge we forget the basics. First of all angels, whether holy or evil, are spirits. Spirits cannot die and that is why God said the lake of fire will be created for Satan and his angels. Second the seed is passed on through the male so if these angels were having children then the seed should be a spirit and not human and they should still be around today. The whole concept of intermingling between spirits and humans is ridiculous anyways.
Every seed after its own kind. Do we remember that in Genesis? Terry 46 also pointed out that spirit beings do not marry and Luke tells us who the sons of God were that are talked about in Genesis They were simply those that believed and worshipped the true and living God and called on His name. Romans tells us that those that are led by the Spirit Word of God are the sons of God. Notice in the genealogy that Cain was not mentioned as a son of Adam or a son of God.
This is because Cain was evil and did not live by the word of God. Daniel, I can understand your confusion, and can answer your question.
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As I told Olivia,The word nephilim many refer to the Greek word gigantos, which can mean giants. So they translate it giants. Angels are spirit beings with no physical form, but can take on the appearance of human form with out physical attributes. Nephilim has two definitions, like the word run has 2, one is to run down the street, the other a run in a stocking.
The definitions for nephilim are: 1. John F. Kennedy birth name man of the people name from deeds , which were of old men of renown. Even if they did not hear of God, since they did not serve God, they were fallen from true religion serving God and served false gods. There are some African tribes that have people ranging from 7 feet on up to 7 feet 11 inches. There was some people in South America that got up to 8 feet tall.
But the word nephilim has nothing to do with height, but their acts. There was a great falling away of people of the Earth before the Flood and were very violent. Olivia, be careful books of Enoch, because they are pseudepigrapha books written Enoch I — 1 B. These books and many others were rejected by Jewish priests and scholars. In Enoch II, the giants described are feet tall. In a exegetical study of the Bible one must use 6 contexts to interpret what is being said. What is the context theme, thought of the whole Bible?
What is the context of the book Genesis, Exodus, ect. What is the context of the chapter you are reading? What is the context of the verse you are reading? What is the context of the key words? What is the historical how did they think, act, ect back in their time context?. Two examples of historical context: 1. When God named everything that he created, as well as, Adam in the Garden naming the animals, they were placing their authority on those things. Because he was placing his authority on the city.
The word nephilim many refer to the Greek word gigantos, which can mean giants. The story of the flood, which should be one chapter, should go from Genesis — After the fall, Genesis , is called Proto Evagenlum, due to it being a prophecy about Christ. But it has a duo stance, it, also, stands for the battle between good and evil. The first example is the story of Cain and Abel, the second is the genealogy lines merging ending in the judgement flood.
In the bible, followers of God were called children of God and sons of God here the first letter of the word sons is small, while when speaking of Christ it is capital in several places. Just as Cain knew of God and that which He expected of man, so did his line, or else how could they use Him in a mocking jest.
How could the daughters of men have the babies of the sons of God before they even met? There were nephilim on the Earth already there were nephilim on the Earth in those days and after those days when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men. Talk about a miracle birth before a man and a woman even meet they have a baby.
The two women mentioned in the line of Cain their names meant evil and vanity. Like the white wash sepulchers beautiful outside foul inside. They pursued the Earthly pursuits rather then Godly pursuits. At the time of the Flood, using modern population statistical growth formulas, there could have been up to 3 billion people on the Earth, but for sake of argument say a few million, out of this only 8 still served God, and even some of these were on the fence. This was the result of the blending of the line of Cain God rejecting, Earthly pursuing line and the line of Enos the follwers of God.
If God had waited an longer there would have been nothing left to save. According to Genesis Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives were the only survivors of the Flood. So Goliath could not be a descendant of the Nephilim. Goliath was an extraordinarily large and strong human being, a Philistine descendants of Ham. Was he now also a descendant of the Nephilim? There is no evidence at all to support the claims made in this article.
The Nephilim have nothing to do with giants or dinosaurs or any flesh and blood creatures other than human beings. If you want to know what the mystic writer meant you must understand why God created in the first place. Hello out there. Yehi Or. Dan, the sons of god are angels, or fallen angels. You should read the book of Enoch. He says how the angel made a treaty to do what they did, going down to the woman on earth. That they took which ever women that they wanted that ones in Genesis.
That they liked there long hair which is why they went to them. It was angels leaving heaven. The book of Enoch even says their habitation meaning their heavenly bodies for a lesser one, flesh. They are telling us what they saw. What happened. What was right in front of them. I mean God says he is truth that his word will never fail, that he is the same yesterday today and forever, that he is not like man that he should lie.
He is telling you the truth from beginning to end. The Bible is tell us how they would be seen. The Nephilim were worshipped. You can see drawing of them in the hieroglyphics in Egypt, and even in the South American. There is also Hercules, Zeus, and the greek gods. They were seen as important, as gods. Also the Rock giants in that new movie, Noah. All that stuff is in the book of Enoch not in Genesis.
It is a movie meant for entertainment not facts. Noah also would not have taken help from Nephilim; because they book of Enoch tells you how they came down, and started to teach men all sort of evil stuff like abortion, witchcraft, the art of seduction to women, and the art of war. The Nephilim were called the fallen ones for a reason. You need to research more. Your schools have left out a lot of information, and the turned the Nephilim into good fallen angels. When they are demons. Terry, you are spot on, and proving there are still some clear thinking believers out there.
Ellen White, is that what you actually learned in school? Is anyone interested in reading exactly what Genesis says? Read it and you will get straight. Gen There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV Gen The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. No intermixing with spirit beings. Why would powerful angles lower themselves to have sex with dirt clods — oh, because they saw they were beautiful, that must be it. Ridiculous, angels that have been exposed to the beauties of the whole universe and they cannot restrain themselves because of the beautiful daughter of men, really?
And why would these angels bother with marriage? Non of it makes sense. Another scholar bites the dust. Jud And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jud Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jud Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Deu A people great and tall, the children of the Anakims, whom thou knowest, and of whom thou hast heard say, Who can stand before the children of Anak! Greece only borrowed from earlier Sumerian and Egyptian sources.
These things can be found in the original Hebrew and find their basis in natural theology. The Anakim were descendants from the Nephilim. Compare to Num , Josh Read Dr. Michael Heiser. As Genesis shows, prior to the Flood, angelic sons of God came to earth, evidently materializing in human form, and cohabited with attractive women. Like others of the post-Flood times, Javan, the progenitor of the Greek people, undoubtedly heard the account of pre-Flood times and circumstances, likely from his father Japheth, a survivor of the Flood.
Note, now, what the writings attributed to Homer and Hesiod reveal. The numerous gods and goddesses they described had human form and great beauty, though often being gigantic and superhuman. They ate, drank, slept, had sexual intercourse among themselves or even with humans, lived as families, quarreled and fought, seduced and raped. Though supposedly holy and immortal, they were capable of any type of deceit and crime.
They could move among mankind either visibly or invisibly. Later Greek writers and philosophers sought to purge the accounts of Homer and Hesiod of some of the more vile acts attributed to the gods. These accounts may reflect, although in greatly expanded, embellished, and distorted form, the authentic account of pre-Flood conditions found in Genesis.
A further remarkable correspondency is that, in addition to the principal gods, the Greek legends describe demigods or heroes who were of both divine and human descent. These demigods were of superhuman strength but were mortal Hercules being the only one of them granted the privilege of attaining immortality.
The demigods thus bear a marked similarity to the Nephilim in the Genesis account. Noting this basic correspondency, Orientalist E. Speiser would trace the theme of the Greek myths back to Mesopotamia. So many people who know what they are talking about yet all saying something different? Most, if not all of these comments are subjective; they are human interpretation. Declare, if thou hast the understanding.
Or who stretched the line upon it? These were much more informative than the BAR article. I agree with your statement that Christians and secularist need to turn to the rabbinic writings. Much fruitless fantasizing could be thereby avoided. Learning to read Biblical Hebrew would be in order as well, especially for Christians. Doing so would reveal how far off mark translations are. In either case, it is nothing to get excited about as a descriptor. I apologize to Dr. The traditional Jewish exegesis cannot be so easily ignored as either he, Dr.
White, or the other posters here suppose. It is in fact the case that elohim is used in several indisputable instances in the Torah for mighty or powerful human beings and groups like nobles, judges, or other potentates. The supposition also runs counter to monotheism. That is why there is next to nothing about a realm ruled by Satan in mainstream Judaism. Even though medieval Jews generally did believe there was Beelzebub, a lord of the demons, the chief characteristic of these demons is that their element was chaos, not a distinct and separate kingdom of evil, and they did not even work together effectively: the only power they had was what human beings accorded them through their own evil impulse.
Therefore, human beings still exercised freedom of will and were responsible for their own deeds before G-d.
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Even still, let us sweep the giants under the rug! Tell me, are you getting grants and funding from the Smithsonian? Alan, those sources you cited, aside from ANE writings, were written after the effects of Greek culture and mythology threatened to inundate Jewish tradition. Do not curse the rich, even in your bedroom, for a bird of the air will carry the news; indiscretion sprouts wings.
How anyone could take the obviously mythical human derived tales of the Bible seriously is beyond belief. The many myth stories found in the Bible should be viewed as epic storytelling, like we do with Shakespeare, while realizing it has absolutely nothing to do with alleged supernatural events claimed by the many pseudonymous authors. It has color photos. Are modern scholars the only ones with opinions that count? As far as the flood, Nimrod became a giant LXX and a mighty hunter of renown.
No wonder hundreds of millions of people now refuse to read the Bible. Think, people, think. It says they were on the earth at the time the sons of God had children with the daughters of men an event that also presents with too little information to be dogmatic about any interpretation. Also since they appear in Numbers after the flood it is likely a title or adjective used to describe large people. You narrow-minded literalists—Ellen, Elaine, David, et all—keep humanity imprisoned in darkness.
I am disappointed by your lack of knowledge on this subject. Forget what you have learned so you can see, and learn, and teach truth not lies. And ignorance is perpetuated. The Nephilim have nothing what so ever to do with a literal race of human beings. The Nephilim are the same as the Greek Titans. They are represented by the constellation Orion. The story of Noah is a cosmic myth as are most OT stories. However, all of those powers admired and even worshipped as divine by pagans including divinized humans such as their own very human kings and pharaohs have no real power or divinity, only G-d does.
This is what monotheism implies, and the Torah makes explicit. The term elohim in itself is used at times in the Torah for clearly human beings, in the sense given above. White as a scholar of the Hebrew Bible ought to know that, but apparently does not. She should consult more respectfully the ages-old Jewish exegetical tradition, but it is usual amongst Christian and modern secular scholars that they think that they can entirely ignore the ancient and still modern Jewish scholarship.
Thus they end up imposing their own Christian or secular agendas on the text. Even so, just checking her Bible Concordance will show her that elohim is a term often used for powerful human beings too. The ancient Jewish tradition knew this very well. However, Rashi does not agree that angels are being referred to. The ArtScroll Series of translations and commentaries on Scripture, has in its vol.
The Torah itself affirms explicitly by terming G-d Elokim, however, that all these powers are subsumed within G-d, the One G-d, Creator of heaven and earth, which is why the term when applied to G-d takes only a singular verb: only G-d, the sum of and transcending all powers, rules supreme. It never occurred to earlier generations and was not taken up by mainstream Judaism and Rabbinic commentators. To shed light on some questions: Nephilim are mentioned as those who nearly achieved divine status, but fell from grace; as the serpent was made in the full pattern of wisdom and beauty, but also fell from grace.
Also, the scriptures mention eight Adamic souls who were saved from the flood thus preserving the bloodline necessary to accomplish prophesy, but the command was given to bring two of every flesh. I found the Epic of Gilgamesh to be of the order of other mythical accounts such as the Titans bound within a mountain; that is to be based on a truth but embellished into folklore and thus hidden from the truth to many an unsuspecting and superficial enquiry. Nephilim are the hybrid offspring of a corrupted union of angels with humans.
The Watchers as described in the Book of Enoch fell from their first estate and sought to create a testimony for themselves.
The verse tells us that both species mated. New genetics research shows that we have a certain percentage of Neanderthal genes in our genetic build up. It seems to me that this was the very problem: intermarriage between believers and unbelievers resulted in a great apostasy from true faith in the God who had created all things and all people, from the God who had promised to send a human Savior from sin.
I am still of the view that Nephilim are historical memory of a time when humans and Neanderthals shared the Levant. Aliens… read it for what is is; symbolic allegory to explain what one could not explain.. You seem to be just as guilty as Matthew in inventing or, at least, espousing an interpretation that fits your particular view of the Bible. Correction; Genesis for the term Nephilim which is mentioned twice, those before the,flood and those after, like Gilgamesh.
And He did not look to Cain and his offering. And Cain glowed greatly with anger and his face fell nephil. It is from the annals of Ashurbanipal II in the early 9th century B. Like Gilgamesh who eventually ends up in the mythical pure land of Dilmun which is the source for the Edenic story, Cain returns to the origins of civilization, the city-state of Eridu Irad, Genesis From all this Gilgamesh emerges as a kind of cultural hero. Matthew I think you should understand that Moses was the author of the first five books of the bible. During Moses time he probably would have never heard of Greece.
The Hellenization of palestine brought by Alexander the Great happened many centuries later. You may be thinking well would if someone just added the stuff about the Nephilim to the text later. They had to copy the text word for word jot for jot and tittle for tittle. If they messed up once they had to throw out the scroll and start over. In order to add something later they would have to gather the thousands of already copied scrolls throughout Israel and somehow edit them. Because a copy that differed in content would have been recognized and thrown out. They have found scrolls of the Bible that were about years earlier than more recent scrolls.
They examined the content and saw that they were copied word for word. Kind of like how New York was previously called new hampster or something like that. Other than that none of it has been changed. The Nephilim were destroyed with everyone else during the flood but since there were people from the line of the Nephilim Goliath, there were also some in Canaan when the 12 spies went to spy out the land for Moses there must have been more demon and human cohabitation.
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The flood was a result of the continual human depravity not from a direct result of the Nephilim. In Jude it talks about demons being kept in a special place locked up by chains in darkness.
Since the context of that passage makes references to Genesis it is safe to say those were probably the demons that went beyond their bounds and did something so atrocious that they were locked up early before the final judgment. I believe these were fallen angels, demons, which had acquired human bodies. They were destroyed by the flood yes. Like most other stories in the OT, this one is simply retelling a tale from a different culture, annexing it as Jewish.
Plain and simple. These were the angels who are now imprissoned. They were impisoned for having sex with human women. The children were the giants. This was an attempt—by Satan—to taint the bloodline and prevent the Messiah being born as true humanity. His orevious attempt Cain and Abel had failed. The bloodline had been preserved with Seth. Noah enagelized grace before they were wiped out—completely. The angels—who were involved in the lot—were imprissoned. Nephilim is anti-natural mixture! They were anti-diluvian giants people anti-god, and were everything buy divine!
Abusive and cruel anti-diluvian ones! I am unable to understand what you said. How is it possible to achieve almost divine status while being an enemy of Israel? Cannot make sense of it. So, your frustration and insult seem to be misplaced. I think that Nephilim is just another tribe near the tribe of Adam, and sons-of-god is a third tribe. The Nephilum were destroyed during the flood, Their spirit was taken to Sheol to wait for the Resurection. Read carefully the text of the passage Only 8 people survived the flood no one else. Congratulations for your work. Your email address will not be published.
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